I'm working on the possibility of a bringing back the quick launch feature in near future for Flock, well that all depends on if it is a good idea or not.
Here are some screen shots of what I have done on windows so far.
The idea behind this is to allow users to perform Flock operations and receive Flock notifications without having the browser fully open all the time.
So we would like to know what everyone thinks about having Flock run in the Sys Tray, is there anything that you would like to be able to do with it, like drag photos on to it or open the photo up loader from it? Let me know your thoughts, likes, and dislikes.
We are of course going to implement this on all three operating systems, Windows, OS X, and Linux (Gnome and KDE desktops), any thoughts on this would be appreciated as well.
January 10, 2007 - 10:48am — Matt Stuhff (not verified)
I think something along the lines of gmail/calendar notifier would be awesome. I'm a new mac user and I'm excited to see this coming (if it does in fact come).
January 10, 2007 - 10:56am — Guru Panguji (not verified)
I think it's an awesome idea. What i'd like is notification of new rss feeds and also an ability to force and rss feed check directly as a context menu on right clicking the sys tray icon! Yup, you guessed right, Windows/Linux user [wanna be Mac user tho :P]
Hmm, how about notification schemes like Outlook / Any of the million IM clients! That'd be really interesting if it were configurable as well. To set / not to set those notifications. So @ work, when you wanna concentrate on the coding, you can set it off else, you can always set it on to let you know of any new change in your feeds or one of the contacts in the photoset has updating his/her photo account!
Thanks in advance and keeping my fingers crossed that it does arrive asap =)!
The ability to drop photos onto it to call up the photo uploader might be attractive to many who might be inclined to use Flock in tandem with some other browser or who have system limitations that cause them to want to limit how many programs are running at a given time.
Dragging snippets from anywhere onto that icon to be saved in the web snippets might also be useful to some. You can then do your surfing in another browser or drag from other sources if desired, but still save clippings to be blogged from Flock later.
January 10, 2007 - 7:08pm — Anonymous (not verified)
Well the last thing I want is having some "notification" pop up and steal my focus while I am in the middle of doing something. It might be even more disasterous if I am doing that thing in full screen (think gaming and quirky video cards/drivers). I make it a habit of checking RSS once a day and don't really need real time notifications. The drag and drop is ok but with larger screens it might take a while to aim at the little sys tray icon while holding down my mouse button. A context menu item might be more appropriate.
Anyway I will be sure to check out whatever is in store, because I believe flock has the best RSS integration than any other browser I use. Keep up the good work!
January 11, 2007 - 2:06am — Steve Holmes (not verified)
This is not something I can see myself using much, because 90% of the time I have at least one Flock instance open. That's not to say that you shouldn't do it, but the main criterion for me is that it shouldn't make things worse. You'd need to make sure that you've really got memory leaks sorted before introducing this, as nobody wants unattended Flock processes downing their machine.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to be slighty suspicious of programs that want to live in my system tray, as I feel like I've got less control over them. Perhaps you should make this feature configurable.
Plugins that do this already exists. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be implementet though.
Currently though it's a little problematic running Flock in the systray because of the rather substantial memory leaks in the current version - making it nescessary to restart the browser at irregular intervals to reclaim system ressources.
Cure the memory leaks and the option to run Flock in the tray will be a good one.
Second thought - cure the memory leaks no matter what. In my book, they are the single greatest problem for flock.
January 11, 2007 - 9:01pm — My name? (not verified)
Well, my english isn't good but "open the photo up loader" or "open the photo uploader"? ;)
Agree with "Anonymous". Drag stuff to a ~10x10 systray icon? Running the program in the background all the time, especially with the mem leaks? Hehe, it looks like you are a linux guy because windows puts like 30 icons to the sysdoc, if you like it or not, how easy is it to find and focus the litle Flock-icon? Even a more or less clean install have a lot icons there, firewall, antivirus, hardware(keybord, wireless, etc), and so on. Add browser, musicplayer, java, quicktime, aim, etc. Its a lot of job to get rid of the icons you dont want. Some is inpossible. I dont want any more... ;) Well, to conclude; bad, bad idea. =)
I think it is an excellent idea, but judging by the feedback, it should be optional: if a person does not want sys tray icon installed, then it is his/her choice.
Also, make notifications configurable, i.e. if someone thinks they are distracting, or only email needs to be checked and not RSS, make that optional.
If I'm using GMAIL Notifier extension I would like to be notified about new emails. I thing that there should be API that would allow to implement this feature in gmail notifier (only example)
Not such a good idea and it didn't catch on in the past as well.
Nowadays each application installs a little utility that runs on the background for whatever reason, slowly yet surely after a while of installing enough application and utilities, memory consumption slows down the computer and nearly renders it unusable.
A browser should be a browser and not a jack knife, clean and memory efficient as possible without loading itself into the memory each time the computer starts. One thing I Don’t like on my Mac are processes I don’t need – In Windows it would be yet another constant memory consumer…
January 15, 2007 - 8:35am — mctones. (not verified)
I can think of one very good reason for a stutus bar launcher (aside from the fact that like a lot of others I have Flock open whenever the pc is on anyway):
A shortcut to the blog editor. Right click the statusbar icon and up pops a menu item to just launch the editor. Useful for offline post creation/editing and bringing it more as a Windows Live Writer competitor.
Although I am probably getting into the realms of silly now, I personally think a Dashboard/Vista/gdesklets/yahoo widget would be more appropriate and inline with the way programs/services are going.
January 16, 2007 - 11:23am — Jacques Marneweck (not verified)
I really like this idea. Another thing which would be nice is for flock to move on over to the Firefox 2.0 code base at some stage so I can move back to Flock from Firefox 2.0.
January 16, 2007 - 10:16pm — Chinarut (not verified)
while you're doing the cross-platform thang - please implement the feature on Mac OS X and as a Dock menu (ie. off the app icon) - i prefer not to have my menu bar cluttered up with one less icon if at possible and really make use of the contextual app menus.
the only catch is the app has to be active to see the menu (i think - someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Some people on slower machines (aka me XD) don't like the idea of processes staying open and clogging up their clocks when they are trying to do something that is resource heavy, this is an awesome idea that i would use, but it would have to be 'turn-off'able completely.
February 2, 2007 - 9:30am — Ex0dus- (not verified)
Awesome idea. Usually when I first install a program, I go to it's preferences and look for the systray option. Though, I do have a program that allows me to minimize any window to the systray, I wouldn't get the options of a Flock icon. I'd like to see an Uploader option definately. Mabye a beta soon, yes? Or perhaps final? :D
February 2, 2007 - 4:43pm — Kyle Eslick (not verified)
I would LOVE to have this added to the system tray. Please give the option to have closing the browser instead put it into the system tray (instead of closing).
March 19, 2007 - 12:50am — Mithun Sreedharan (not verified)
I can remember Netscape 6 had the feature what they called “Quick launch”, which minimizes the navigator window to system tray. I don’t know why the removed this useful feature in later versions. I had to install use “minimize to tray” extension there onwards.
When switched to Firefox/Thunderbird the same extension helped me much to launch my default browser quickly on my low memory machine and stay opened and save task bar space.
I would like to have this feature in my Flock as built in, but by default disabled. Or provide an option in the Flock installer to include this feature also.
Some more suggestions
*Include 5-10 items on the in left mouse click contest menu and 2 items (restore/ close) on right click context menu
*Ability to enable/disable alerts as above comments mentioned.
*Start up Flock on Windows (definitely Linux/Mac) start up.
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I think something along the lines of gmail/calendar notifier would be awesome. I'm a new mac user and I'm excited to see this coming (if it does in fact come).
I think it's an awesome idea. What i'd like is notification of new rss feeds and also an ability to force and rss feed check directly as a context menu on right clicking the sys tray icon! Yup, you guessed right, Windows/Linux user [wanna be Mac user tho :P]
Hmm, how about notification schemes like Outlook / Any of the million IM clients! That'd be really interesting if it were configurable as well. To set / not to set those notifications. So @ work, when you wanna concentrate on the coding, you can set it off else, you can always set it on to let you know of any new change in your feeds or one of the contacts in the photoset has updating his/her photo account!
Thanks in advance and keeping my fingers crossed that it does arrive asap =)!
The ability to drop photos onto it to call up the photo uploader might be attractive to many who might be inclined to use Flock in tandem with some other browser or who have system limitations that cause them to want to limit how many programs are running at a given time.
Dragging snippets from anywhere onto that icon to be saved in the web snippets might also be useful to some. You can then do your surfing in another browser or drag from other sources if desired, but still save clippings to be blogged from Flock later.
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Well the last thing I want is having some "notification" pop up and steal my focus while I am in the middle of doing something. It might be even more disasterous if I am doing that thing in full screen (think gaming and quirky video cards/drivers). I make it a habit of checking RSS once a day and don't really need real time notifications. The drag and drop is ok but with larger screens it might take a while to aim at the little sys tray icon while holding down my mouse button. A context menu item might be more appropriate.
Anyway I will be sure to check out whatever is in store, because I believe flock has the best RSS integration than any other browser I use. Keep up the good work!
This is not something I can see myself using much, because 90% of the time I have at least one Flock instance open. That's not to say that you shouldn't do it, but the main criterion for me is that it shouldn't make things worse. You'd need to make sure that you've really got memory leaks sorted before introducing this, as nobody wants unattended Flock processes downing their machine.
Maybe it's just me, but I tend to be slighty suspicious of programs that want to live in my system tray, as I feel like I've got less control over them. Perhaps you should make this feature configurable.
hum interesting if i understand its near about a tool that exist already in kemeleon browser to prelaunch the browser and to run faster ...
its a good idea ...
Plugins that do this already exists. That doesn't mean it shouldn't be implementet though.
Currently though it's a little problematic running Flock in the systray because of the rather substantial memory leaks in the current version - making it nescessary to restart the browser at irregular intervals to reclaim system ressources.
Cure the memory leaks and the option to run Flock in the tray will be a good one.
Second thought - cure the memory leaks no matter what. In my book, they are the single greatest problem for flock.
Well, my english isn't good but "open the photo up loader" or "open the photo uploader"? ;)
Agree with "Anonymous". Drag stuff to a ~10x10 systray icon? Running the program in the background all the time, especially with the mem leaks? Hehe, it looks like you are a linux guy because windows puts like 30 icons to the sysdoc, if you like it or not, how easy is it to find and focus the litle Flock-icon? Even a more or less clean install have a lot icons there, firewall, antivirus, hardware(keybord, wireless, etc), and so on. Add browser, musicplayer, java, quicktime, aim, etc. Its a lot of job to get rid of the icons you dont want. Some is inpossible. I dont want any more... ;) Well, to conclude; bad, bad idea. =)
I think it is an excellent idea, but judging by the feedback, it should be optional: if a person does not want sys tray icon installed, then it is his/her choice.
Also, make notifications configurable, i.e. if someone thinks they are distracting, or only email needs to be checked and not RSS, make that optional.
If I'm using GMAIL Notifier extension I would like to be notified about new emails. I thing that there should be API that would allow to implement this feature in gmail notifier (only example)
Not such a good idea and it didn't catch on in the past as well.
Nowadays each application installs a little utility that runs on the background for whatever reason, slowly yet surely after a while of installing enough application and utilities, memory consumption slows down the computer and nearly renders it unusable.
A browser should be a browser and not a jack knife, clean and memory efficient as possible without loading itself into the memory each time the computer starts. One thing I Don’t like on my Mac are processes I don’t need – In Windows it would be yet another constant memory consumer…
I can think of one very good reason for a stutus bar launcher (aside from the fact that like a lot of others I have Flock open whenever the pc is on anyway):
A shortcut to the blog editor. Right click the statusbar icon and up pops a menu item to just launch the editor. Useful for offline post creation/editing and bringing it more as a Windows Live Writer competitor.
Although I am probably getting into the realms of silly now, I personally think a Dashboard/Vista/gdesklets/yahoo widget would be more appropriate and inline with the way programs/services are going.
I really like this idea. Another thing which would be nice is for flock to move on over to the Firefox 2.0 code base at some stage so I can move back to Flock from Firefox 2.0.
while you're doing the cross-platform thang - please implement the feature on Mac OS X and as a Dock menu (ie. off the app icon) - i prefer not to have my menu bar cluttered up with one less icon if at possible and really make use of the contextual app menus.
the only catch is the app has to be active to see the menu (i think - someone correct me if I'm wrong)
Some people on slower machines (aka me XD) don't like the idea of processes staying open and clogging up their clocks when they are trying to do something that is resource heavy, this is an awesome idea that i would use, but it would have to be 'turn-off'able completely.
Awesome idea. Usually when I first install a program, I go to it's preferences and look for the systray option. Though, I do have a program that allows me to minimize any window to the systray, I wouldn't get the options of a Flock icon. I'd like to see an Uploader option definately. Mabye a beta soon, yes? Or perhaps final? :D
I would LOVE to have this added to the system tray. Please give the option to have closing the browser instead put it into the system tray (instead of closing).
You have to put a mial checker and drag photos feature to it.
I can remember Netscape 6 had the feature what they called “Quick launch”, which minimizes the navigator window to system tray. I don’t know why the removed this useful feature in later versions. I had to install use “minimize to tray” extension there onwards.
When switched to Firefox/Thunderbird the same extension helped me much to launch my default browser quickly on my low memory machine and stay opened and save task bar space.
I would like to have this feature in my Flock as built in, but by default disabled. Or provide an option in the Flock installer to include this feature also.
Some more suggestions
*Include 5-10 items on the in left mouse click contest menu and 2 items (restore/ close) on right click context menu
*Ability to enable/disable alerts as above comments mentioned.
*Start up Flock on Windows (definitely Linux/Mac) start up.
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So... will this or will this not be implemented into Flock? As of now it takes way too much time to start up and preloader would be one of the solutions (the other solution would be following the optimizations of Firefox 3)
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I would like this too. I'm using the BossKey plugin right now but the context menu of it leaves some *ahem* residue on my taskbar (WinXP Pro MCE Skin)
Please make this real ASAP
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